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Dear friends,

I love people who bring unexpected combinations of passions together in their person and confound the category we would put them in. Of course, that is true of each and every one of us. We don’t all wear it on our sleeves, yet the people who know us best — and we who work to know ourselves — are intensely aware that we are living, breathing incarnations of Whitman’s famous line in “Song of Myself” — “I contain multitudes”:

Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)

There’s a light-hearted corrective in this for our fraught life together — for if I contradict myself all the time, so does everyone I see one-dimensionally as a problem.

And there’s a healing corrective in it, too, for the narrowing ways the world into which I was born categorized people by their profession — collapsing the notion of vocation and personal calling into job title. It is humanizing and life-giving to acknowledge that there are many callings in any given life. We are called not merely to be professional people, but to be friends, neighbors, colleagues, family, citizens, lovers of the world. Also, in the course of any lifetime, different callings take precedence at different times.

All of that is a long-winded way of pointing at the delight of meeting Nick Offerman for this week’s show. He is, as I’m sure he’s primarily described in every bio you might find, an actor/comedian. But what I learned as I looked beneath that category is that he is first a person who works with his hands. He made a living as a woodworker before and while his career took off with his role as Ron Swanson on Parks and Recreation. He still runs the Offerman Woodshop in Los Angeles, which is, by the way, led by women. He wrote an interesting book last year, Where the Deer and the Antelope Play, that got a lot of attention. But I fell in love with his earlier book, Good Clean Fun: Misadventures in Sawdust at Offerman Woodshop

It is not an exaggeration that we put “the meaning of life” in the title of this touching and fun show that emerged from my conversation with Nick. From his origins as an Illinois farm boy, to traveling with a Kabuki sensei, to entering the world of Wendell Berry, he offers fresh, companionable good sense towards our lives as humans and on this planet. 

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Krista

 

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Nick Offerman
On Working with Wood, and the Meaning of Life

The spiritual thoughtfulness of the actor/comedian: on making by hand, solving puzzles with your wife, and sitting at the feet of Wendell Berry.

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The Art of Being Creatures

This conversation with a beloved teacher of Krista, biblical theologian Ellen Davis, is surrounded with poems read by her friend and collaborator Wendell Berry.

Or: listen to our collection of Wendell Berry poems read by him, from his home in Kentucky, for On Being.

 

 

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Using Language as a Chisel

“...compiling language and thought and participating in this vast conversation.”

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A Tool for Living

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We're paying attention as arts of living — practices — emerge in this season's conversations.

This week, a simple and pleasurable suggestion from Nick Offerman.

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